OWT: all things related

[JTrain]

This is all a work and it's fucking retarded.

I think Nicks eye disagrees with this. If its a work, pretty elaborate...and easy way to make your top baby face a heel.

[nutt]

When I heard legal and HR were present when shit went down, that's when I knew it wasn't a work. The following have been suspended pending investigation (and possibly terminated, loss of power, etc.):

• Ace Steel
• CM Punk
• Nick Jackson
• Matt Jackson
• Kenny Omega
• Brandon Cutler
• Michael Nakazawa
• Christopher Daniels
• Pat Buck

The World and Trios titles have been vacated. Which means these are really long suspensions or all parties will be terminated.

[JTrain]

When I heard legal and HR were present when shit went down, that's when I knew it wasn't a work. The following have been suspended pending investigation (and possibly terminated, loss of power, etc.):

• Ace Steel
• CM Punk
• Nick Jackson
• Matt Jackson
• Kenny Omega
• Brandon Cutler
• Michael Nakazawa
• Christopher Daniels
• Pat Buck

The World and Trios titles have been vacated. Which means these are really long suspensions or all parties will be terminated.

Bold will not even come close to getting fired. Phil and Ace are as good as gone. They took Phil off the intro to Dynamite. The error was Tonys, not knowing the cancer that he was inviting into his locker room. He knows now. But hes not getting rid of the group he literally built the company with. Thats Cornette-esque bullshit that people who are not in the know are spouting.

[Pollaski]

I know he's faking it, but babyface MJF is the most disconcerting thing ever.

EDIT: There it is! I'm impressed it took fifteen minutes and a call-out from Mox.

[Pollaski]

Bold will not even come close to getting fired. Phil and Ace are as good as gone. They took Phil off the intro to Dynamite. The error was Tonys, not knowing the cancer that he was inviting into his locker room. He knows now. But hes not getting rid of the group he literally built the company with. Thats Cornette-esque bullshit that people who are not in the know are spouting.

Do you think it would have been different had they kept Punk from the title picture? Cause it was really him going after Page that cooled me off on him.

[Pollaski]

Pretty good show. Trios title, Pure title, and Page/BD all delivered. Also loved Mox's promo to start the show. Good way to put the OOC drama aside and just forge forward.

On another note, I don't think Stokely Hathaway gets enough love. First, he's a throwback to the old stable manager days like Heenan, Jimmy Hart, and Slick. Second, the guy's just an unapologetic smarmy douche.;

[nutt]

CM Punk tore his triceps and pectoral on that Tope at All Out. Fired or not, he's done.

[JTrain]

So facts confirmed by both sides:

-Punk thought the Bucks and Hangman put it out in the media that he got Colt Cabana taken out of the Dark Order and into ROH only. Didn't actually happen.
-The Bucks confronted Punk with at least half a dozen people around.
-Punk threw the first punch, made the altercation physical
-Kenny got Punks dog out of the room to a safe location, went back in and tried to pull Ace and Nick apart. Ace bit Kenny (seriously, fucker better never work in the business again) and pulled his hair. He also threw a chair at one of the Bucks. )

Whats being argued is why Punk started fighting. Each side is claiming something different. Bottom line, Phil has always been a cunt and unfortunately the cancer that is CM Punk proved to be malignant.

[JTrain]

So I was looking into Uncle Dave match ratings, found some interesting stats...these are totals of 4 star matches or better per wrestler...

Omega 112
Okada 166
Tanahashi 159
Angle 71
Ospreay 141
Young Bucks 132
HBK 48
Bret 21
Austin 27
Rock 19
Hogan 1
Flair 41
Misawa 141
Kawada 128
Ibushi 105
Naito 107
Ishii 147
CM Punk 31
Moxley 74

[JTrain]

What I've noticed, is that the current gen guys are having way better matches based on the WON system (Rollins is over 70, KO near 50 ect). Maybe the work rate is better, maybe Dave just likes this current style better...but some of those numbers are surprising.

[JTrain]

AEW is in Chicago for the 847677378383489459tb time this year...so the Bucks and Omega did some classic trolling. Omega bit an arm (like Ace Steel bit him), Matt did the Buckshot Lariat and fell on his ass the way Punk did, and then Omega hit the GTS. Crowd was furious, was absolutely hilarious. Chicago will be the only city these guys get boo'd in.

[JTrain]

The best wrestling show all year is tonight in Tokyo. If you haven't seen these yet, go out of your way to do so:

1. Giulia vs. Syuri for Stardom World Title
2. The press conference segment with Kenny Omega (w/Don) and Will OSpreay. Its easy to see why so many people say this is the actual main event at WK.

[riker7]

It was good to see Charlotte Flair return. The people in Tampa got their money's worth. If true, it's funny that Roman Reigns intentionally busted Kevin Owens' eye. John Cena is still little more than a rodeo clown.

[boomie]

[nutt]

Not sure why we can't see Boomie's embedded Tweet but Sasha Banks is now Mercedes Mone and is with New Japan, Strong, and STARDOM. Most likely is Saraya's mystery partner next Wednesday.

Also, The Bucks are on vacation. They are not in Tokyo or in the PNW. Naomi and Bayley are at WK17.

Make sure you watch the Women's match, the Tag Title match, and the TV title match.

The final three begins now!