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  • Spartan
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    Originally posted by FuqMizzou View Post

    I think it was pointed out above that the majority of Americans are Independent, maybe they just need a third direction to lean and we give that graph a Y axis.
    https://dbhq.github.io/quiz

    PolitiScales_Results_1660446426244.png

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  • FuqMizzou
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    Originally posted by sctrojan View Post
    And how would that work?
    You take all the center leaning democrats, and center leading republicans and start getting them on the same page.

    Maybe with a slogan like "Make America not full of Fox news idiots again who won't take over three city blocks?"
    Last edited by FuqMizzou; 08-13-2022, 11:04 PM.

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  • sctrojan
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    Originally posted by FuqMizzou View Post

    I think it was pointed out above that the majority of Americans are Independent, maybe they just need a third direction to lean and we give that graph a Y axis.
    And how would that work?

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  • FuqMizzou
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    Originally posted by sctrojan View Post
    She would be welcomed as a republican by Mitch same way as Mancin would be

    In the end these two "indendent" senators figured they would stick with the party that fucking is trying to make things better rather than form their own feckless 3rd party and be irrelevant
    I think it was pointed out above that the majority of Americans are Independent, maybe they just need a third direction to lean and we give that graph a Y axis.

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  • sctrojan
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    Originally posted by Deschet View Post

    Actually, by your logic, she’s a Republican.
    She would be welcomed as a republican by Mitch same way as Mancin would be

    In the end these two "indendent" senators figured they would stick with the party that fucking is trying to make things better rather than form their own feckless 3rd party and be irrelevant

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  • Deschet
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    Originally posted by sctrojan View Post
    So one member of the democratic party is not pulling in the same direction as the rest of the party - do I say to hell with the Dems?

    In the end she voted for the climate bill because her state is facing droughts
    Actually, by your logic, she’s a Republican.

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  • sctrojan
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    So one member of the democratic party is not pulling in the same direction as the rest of the party - do I say to hell with the Dems?

    In the end she voted for the climate bill because her state is facing droughts

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  • FuqMizzou
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    Originally posted by sctrojan View Post
    Notice that more repubs identity themselves as independent which make the independent candidate decidedly more conservative
    No

    "Among the public overall, 17% are Democratic-leaning independents, while 13% lean toward the Republican Party."

    https://www.pewresearch.org/politics...at-they-think/

    Among the public overall, 38% describe themselves as independents, while 31% are Democrats and 26% call themselves Republicans, according to Pew Research Center surveys conducted in 2018. These shares have changed only modestly in recent years, but the proportion of independents is higher than it was from 2000-2008, when no more than about a third of the public identified as independents. (For more on partisan identification over time, see the 2018 report “Wide Gender Gap, Growing Educational Divide in Voters’ Party Identification.”)

    An overwhelming majority of independents (81%) continue to “lean” toward either the Republican Party or the Democratic Party. Among the public overall, 17% are Democratic-leaning independents, while 13% lean toward the Republican Party. Just 7% of Americans decline to lean toward a party, a share that has changed little in recent years. This is a long-standing dynamic that has been the subject of past analyses, both by Pew Research Center and others.

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  • Spartan
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    Originally posted by sctrojan View Post
    If you're pro choice anti gun pro environment pro gay rights then why do you equate the Dems with the Repubs?

    One party supports your views the other doesn't and the independent party you crave for has no opinion

    The best candidate happens to be Democrats at this point in time.
    https://apnews.com/article/sinema-to...a33f1aad8dbeac

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  • sctrojan
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    Originally posted by FuqMizzou View Post

    I don't share all your views even though I lean left. For one, I'm not anti-gun, I just want stricter laws on obtaining and the level of guns you can buy....

    I wouldn't consider myself anti or pro gay. I don't hate gay people, I am not going to march with them either, but they deserve their freedom to do what they want if it isn't hurting anyone else.

    I don't want to be affiliated with a party, and I'm part of the 41% (which is more than Republicans or Democrats)

    Both parties are in the minority.

    "Gallup. On December 17, 2020, Gallup polling found that 31% of Americans identified as Democrats, 25% identified as Republican, and 41% as Independent."
    Notice that more repubs identity themselves as independent which make the independent candidate decidedly more conservative

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  • FuqMizzou
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    Originally posted by sctrojan View Post
    If you're pro choice anti gun pro environment pro gay rights then why do you equate the Dems with the Repubs?

    One party supports your views the other doesn't and the independent party you crave for has no opinion

    The best candidate happens to be Democrats at this point in time.
    I don't share all your views even though I lean left. For one, I'm not anti-gun, I just want stricter laws on obtaining and the level of guns you can buy....

    I wouldn't consider myself anti or pro gay. I don't hate gay people, I am not going to march with them either, but they deserve their freedom to do what they want if it isn't hurting anyone else.

    I don't want to be affiliated with a party, and I'm part of the 41% (which is more than Republicans or Democrats)

    Both parties are in the minority.

    "Gallup. On December 17, 2020, Gallup polling found that 31% of Americans identified as Democrats, 25% identified as Republican, and 41% as Independent."

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  • Deschet
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    Originally posted by sctrojan View Post
    If you're pro choice anti gun pro environment pro gay rights then why do you equate the Dems with the Repubs?

    One party supports your views the other doesn't and the independent party you crave for has no opinion

    The best candidate happens to be Democrats at this point in time.
    Dude. Why. The. Fuck. Do. You. Care? Why is it so important for you that Fuqqie fit into your neat little box? It’s beyond irksome.

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  • sctrojan
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    Originally posted by FuqMizzou View Post
    Are you joking? I just made a thread how I just voted pro choice in Kansas.

    No I am not as anti gun as you but I am for fae stricter policies. That is why I am independent l, I have the right to choose on each issue and it makes me neither.

    I have, and still vote for the best candidate every time.

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    If you're pro choice anti gun pro environment pro gay rights then why do you equate the Dems with the Repubs?

    One party supports your views the other doesn't and the independent party you crave for has no opinion

    The best candidate happens to be Democrats at this point in time.

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  • Deschet
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    Originally posted by FuqMizzou View Post
    Are you joking? I just made a thread how I just voted pro choice in Kansas.

    No I am not as anti gun as you but I am for fae stricter policies. That is why I am independent l, I have the right to choose on each issue and it makes me neither.

    I have, and still vote for the best candidate every time.

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    Bro. He doesn’t read posts. I’m not sure if it’s because he can’t or because he won’t. Instead, he responds with a strawman and attempts to tear it down. Sadly, he often fails at this as well.

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  • FuqMizzou
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    Originally posted by sctrojan View Post

    You still end up with 2 political parties. Even independents in the senate end up choosing democrats over repubs - Bernie and Angus King .

    You may keep claiming to be independent but you always end up supporting republican policies - which makes you a republican.

    You have not yet come out in support of abortion rights, gay rights, strict gun regulations, environmental regulations - because if you did - you're be called a democrat.
    Are you joking? I just made a thread how I just voted pro choice in Kansas.

    No I am not as anti gun as you but I am for fae stricter policies. That is why I am independent l, I have the right to choose on each issue and it makes me neither.

    I have, and still vote for the best candidate every time.

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