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  • Originally posted by tOSUfanboi2 View Post

    That’s a lot of words to tell me you pressured a girl into getting an abortion and feel bad about it. What was her name and how old were you two?

    I could keep trolling you endlessly, but I think I might’ve lost my taste for it. I’ve read so many “people” talking gleefully about murdering babies over the last few days that I can’t really find humor in it anymore. Good luck with your moral relativism.
    Except, I never have. To my knowledge, no girl I’ve been with has has a kid whom I fathered. It’s a very, very minor miracle. Sorry to burst your bubble. I know it’s important to you to think I’m mad. I’m not. Notice, I’m not tossing insults. There’s not an ounce of RAWR. I’m able to disagree and be perfectly civil.

    Again, you present a false-dichotomy, as the overwhelming majority of Americans view every abortion as a tragedy. You just haven’t figured this out, because for you, there’s no grey area thus no room for debate.

    Good luck with your moral absolutism.

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    • Originally posted by Deschet View Post

      Except, I never have. To my knowledge, no girl I’ve been with has has a kid whom I fathered. It’s a very, very minor miracle. Sorry to burst your bubble. I know it’s important to you to think I’m mad. I’m not. Notice, I’m not tossing insults. There’s not an ounce of RAWR. I’m able to disagree and be perfectly civil.

      Again, you present a false-dichotomy, as the overwhelming majority of Americans view every abortion as a tragedy. You just haven’t figured this out, because for you, there’s no grey area thus no room for debate.

      Good luck with your moral absolutism.
      A tragedy that almost 40% of them are allowing to occur without restriction or explanation. Yeah, I don’t think they view it that way at all. They see killing babies as an inherent female right and wear it as a badge of honor. It’s not a moral or medical issue, it’s a flex. I didn’t always feel this way, but again, the last few days have been extremely revealing about the character of these people. There isn’t anything that anyone can say or do to me that would make me act like they have.
      Last edited by tOSUfanboi2; 06-27-2022, 12:32 PM.

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      • I'm personally opposed to abortion, but I really wish tOSUfanboi's mom had gotten one.

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        • Originally posted by Nash View Post
          I'm personally opposed to abortion, but I really wish tOSUfanboi's mom had gotten one.
          I’m pretty sure your mom’s doctor botched hers. It would definitely explain things.

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          • Do all faiths have the same stance on abortion as say tOSUfanboi2?

            "The majority of foundational Jewish texts assert that a fetus does not attain the status of personhood until birth.

            Although the Hebrew Bible does not mention abortion, it does talk about miscarriage in Exodus 21:22-25. It imagines the case of men fighting, injuring a pregnant woman in the process. If she miscarries but suffers no additional injury, the penalty is a fine.

            Since the death of a person would be murder or manslaughter, and carry a different penalty, most rabbinic sources deduce from these verses that a fetus has a different status.

            An early, authoritative rabbinic work, the Mishnah, discusses the question of a woman in distress during labor. If her life is at risk, the fetus must be destroyed to save her. Once its head starts to emerge from the birth canal, however, it becomes a human life, or “nefesh.” At that point, according to Jewish law, one must try to save both mother and child. It prohibits setting aside one life for the sake of another.

            According to a 2017 Pew survey, 83% of American Jews believe that abortion should be legal in all or most cases. All the non-Orthodox movements have statements supporting reproductive rights, and even ultra-Orthodox leaders have resisted anti-abortion measures that do not allow religious exceptions."


            What happens when a pregnant Jewish women who wants an abortion sues saying the law that says life begins at conception violates her faith which says it begins once the baby takes its first breath outside the womb? You say what? Tough... were going with what I want?

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            • I am pro-life unless the mother was raped or could die, or the parents are Republicans, Democrats, or staunch religious indoctrinators.

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              • Originally posted by TTURedRaider View Post
                Do all faiths have the same stance on abortion as say tOSUfanboi2?

                "The majority of foundational Jewish texts assert that a fetus does not attain the status of personhood until birth.

                Although the Hebrew Bible does not mention abortion, it does talk about miscarriage in Exodus 21:22-25. It imagines the case of men fighting, injuring a pregnant woman in the process. If she miscarries but suffers no additional injury, the penalty is a fine.

                Since the death of a person would be murder or manslaughter, and carry a different penalty, most rabbinic sources deduce from these verses that a fetus has a different status.

                An early, authoritative rabbinic work, the Mishnah, discusses the question of a woman in distress during labor. If her life is at risk, the fetus must be destroyed to save her. Once its head starts to emerge from the birth canal, however, it becomes a human life, or “nefesh.” At that point, according to Jewish law, one must try to save both mother and child. It prohibits setting aside one life for the sake of another.

                According to a 2017 Pew survey, 83% of American Jews believe that abortion should be legal in all or most cases. All the non-Orthodox movements have statements supporting reproductive rights, and even ultra-Orthodox leaders have resisted anti-abortion measures that do not allow religious exceptions."


                What happens when a pregnant Jewish women who wants an abortion sues saying the law that says life begins at conception violates her faith which says it begins once the baby takes its first breath outside the womb? You say what? Tough... were going with what I want?
                Link? Not only do all religions not believe in life being sacred, some of them are pretty big on taking it.

                But to address your specific point: if you want to stretch it based on the text, Jews believe in a lot of stuff. Should we make it legal for them to charge gentiles interest and exclude Jews too? What about enslave people? Genocide? Come on, don’t puss out on me now, we’ve got religious freedoms to protect!

                I think it’s cute that you’re trying to adopt this argument and all, and it’s not surprising because it’s been circulating on social media the past few days. The problem is, there is not and never has been unlimited religious freedom in the U.S. Muslims can’t legally mutilate their daughters genitals, people who believe in human sacrifice cant kill or eat their members, sexual abuse isn’t allowed, etc. Basically, as soon as your religious beliefs are exposed as demonstrably and blatantly harmful like infanticide, nobody gives a shit what you think.

                Anything else, or are you going to fuck off back to Reddit to mine some more arguments for me to pimp slap? My shift ends in under 2 hours, so you better hurry.

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                • Originally posted by TTURedRaider View Post
                  Do all faiths have the same stance on abortion as say tOSUfanboi2?

                  "The majority of foundational Jewish texts assert that a fetus does not attain the status of personhood until birth.

                  Although the Hebrew Bible does not mention abortion, it does talk about miscarriage in Exodus 21:22-25. It imagines the case of men fighting, injuring a pregnant woman in the process. If she miscarries but suffers no additional injury, the penalty is a fine.

                  Since the death of a person would be murder or manslaughter, and carry a different penalty, most rabbinic sources deduce from these verses that a fetus has a different status.

                  An early, authoritative rabbinic work, the Mishnah, discusses the question of a woman in distress during labor. If her life is at risk, the fetus must be destroyed to save her. Once its head starts to emerge from the birth canal, however, it becomes a human life, or “nefesh.” At that point, according to Jewish law, one must try to save both mother and child. It prohibits setting aside one life for the sake of another.

                  According to a 2017 Pew survey, 83% of American Jews believe that abortion should be legal in all or most cases. All the non-Orthodox movements have statements supporting reproductive rights, and even ultra-Orthodox leaders have resisted anti-abortion measures that do not allow religious exceptions."


                  What happens when a pregnant Jewish women who wants an abortion sues saying the law that says life begins at conception violates her faith which says it begins once the baby takes its first breath outside the womb? You say what? Tough... were going with what I want?
                  You already know the answer. Only one faith matters. And even all of them rarely agree. So, the more conservative side. So, one sect of one faith. That’s what matters. Everyone else can kick rocks.

                  That’s why we can’t treat this as a funeral but as a stroke. It’s way bigger on the inside. It’s the Re-Tardus.

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                  • Originally posted by tOSUfanboi2 View Post

                    Link? Not only do all religions not believe in life being sacred, some of them are pretty big on taking it.

                    But to address your specific point: if you want to stretch it based on the text, Jews believe in a lot of stuff. Should we make it legal for them to charge gentiles interest and exclude Jews too? What about enslave people? Genocide? Come on, don’t puss out on me now, we’ve got religious freedoms to protect!

                    I think it’s cute that you’re trying to adopt this argument and all, and it’s not surprising because it’s been circulating on social media the past few days. The problem is, there is not and never has been unlimited religious freedom in the U.S. Muslims can’t legally mutilate their daughters genitals, people who believe in human sacrifice cant kill or eat their members, sexual abuse isn’t allowed, etc. Basically, as soon as your religious beliefs are exposed as demonstrably and blatantly harmful like infanticide, nobody gives a shit what you think.

                    Anything else, or are you going to fuck off back to Reddit to mine some more arguments for me to pimp slap? My shift ends in under 2 hours, so you better hurry.
                    And again, this is why both sides should try to find compromise. For you, and for people like AOC, you probably won’t like it. Regardless, I’d prefer a law that reflects the ethos of our current society should be predicated by the top of the Bell Curve and not by the bottom-left or bottom-right.

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                    • Originally posted by Deschet View Post

                      And again, this is why both sides should try to find compromise. For you, and for people like AOC, you probably won’t like it. Regardless, I’d prefer a law that reflects the ethos of our current society should be predicated by the top of the Bell Curve and not by the bottom-left or bottom-right.
                      The top of the bell curve is why McDonalds is both one of the largest land owners in the U.S. and one of its most lucrative restaurants. The top of the bell curve is how a handful of companies have managed to take control of our entire economy and political system. The top of the bell curve is fucking stupid and they’re the last people we should be looking to for suggestions. The midwit phenomenon is real, don’t be one

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                      • Originally posted by tOSUfanboi2 View Post

                        I’m pretty sure your mom’s doctor botched hers. It would definitely explain things.
                        I'm not nearly as brain damaged as you.

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                        • Originally posted by Nash View Post

                          I'm not nearly as brain damaged as you.
                          Unless you’re in like the top 3% of the human population in terms of intelligence, it’s a near certainty that you’re wrong. Assuming you’re not though, how sad does that make your life? Imagine having one chance at life, with a genius level IQ no less, and you spend it being a self loathing incel. Prayers sent.

                          Now if you’ll excuse me, I’m going to go back to beating up your boyfriends.

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                          • Originally posted by tOSUfanboi2 View Post

                            Unless you’re in like the top 3% of the human population in terms of intelligence, it’s a near certainty that you’re wrong. Assuming you’re not though, how sad does that make your life? Imagine having one chance at life, with a genius level IQ no less, and you spend it being a self loathing incel. Prayers sent.

                            Now if you’ll excuse me, I’m going to go back to beating up your boyfriends.
                            I'm going to guess that no one on this board is top 5%, much less top 3. As for the rest of it: I am not a genius. I am comfortable with myself; neither love nor hate. I have plenty of sex with my gf. And when you get back from tongue-washing daCat's taint, I'll dunk on you again.

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                            • Originally posted by Nash View Post

                              I'm going to guess that no one on this board is top 5%, much less top 3. As for the rest of it: I am not a genius. I am comfortable with myself; neither love nor hate. I have plenty of sex with my gf. And when you get back from tongue-washing daCat's taint, I'll dunk on you again.
                              Your hand is not a person, Nash. Nobody here believes your stretch armstrong ass has been anywhere near pussy.

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                              • Originally posted by tOSUfanboi2 View Post

                                Your hand is not a person, Nash. Nobody here believes your stretch armstrong ass has been anywhere near pussy.
                                That's not my problem.

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