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  • House Dem Shreds AOC and Colleagues for Playing the ‘Race Card’

    Mediaite - House Dem Shreds AOC and Colleagues for Playing the ‘Race Card’: ‘Their Ignorance is Beyond Belief’

    That's probably a response to this stuff.

    Mediaite - AOC Fires Back at ‘Outright Disrespectful’ Pelosi for ‘Explicit Singling Out of Newly-Elected Women of Color’

    Mediaite - Rashida Tlaib Guts Pelosi, Suggests Speaker Standing ‘Idly By’ as ‘Brown and Dark-Skinned Children’ Are ‘Dehumanized’

    This is going to be fun. I wonder which side DPR etc will support. Justice Democrats promoting people to run against their fellow Democrats very Tea Party. You just won back the House and now you want to come for your fellow Democrats? Brilliant.

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    Ryan Saavedra@RealSaavedra
    AOC appears to suggest that Pelosi is targeting her because Pelosi wants her to get death threats: “It's singling out 4 individuals, and knowing the media environment that we're operating in, knowing the amount of death threats that we get .... I think it's just worth asking why”
    LMFAO. Going to be interesting to see if these arguments work against fellow Democrats like they do against Republicans.

    “The revolution, like Saturn, devours its own children."

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    • #3
      Not sure your comparison of the Democratic Socialists to the Tea Party is fair, but there is no doubt a major push to the far left going on with a faction of the Democratic Party. Actually, the Democratic Socialists more closely resemble Communists than they do liberals. If you look at the Presidential candidates one might think the Dems are going with the shift. But I seriously doubt the establishment Dems are willing to go along with it.

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      • #4
        Dems race baiting themselves the last few weeks has been pretty interesting to watch, LOL. Joe Biden, a career in working for civil rights and getting VAWA legislation through...got race baited, and now AOC and crew race baiting Pelosi. I mean, Pelosi fucking sucks, but not because she's racist, it's because she's spineless.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by daCat View Post
          Not sure your comparison of the Democratic Socialists to the Tea Party is fair, but there is no doubt a major push to the far left going on with a faction of the Democratic Party. Actually, the Democratic Socialists more closely resemble Communists than they do liberals. If you look at the Presidential candidates one might think the Dems are going with the shift. But I seriously doubt the establishment Dems are willing to go along with it.
          If it gets Trump out, even some moderate Republicans are going along with it, just how like the Republicans swallowed Trump semen to keep Hillary out and get their abortion judges in.

          Trump is closer to Communism as we've known it in many ways than the far left. The far left AOC coalition is basically a bunch of uber socialist morons whose immediate reaction to anyone disagreeing with them is that it's because they're racist/sexist/ist.

          I don't even mind some of their uber-socialist ideas, but the literally not going a paragraph without saying something about oppressed brown people is fucking ridiculous.
          Last edited by General_Grantlocks; 07-11-2019, 05:37 PM.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by General_Grantlocks View Post

            If it gets Trump out, even some moderate Republicans are going along with it.
            I'm glad you give us a peek inside the Seattle bubble.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by TTURedRaider View Post

              LMFAO. Going to be interesting to see if these arguments work against fellow Democrats like they do against Republicans.

              “The revolution, like Saturn, devours its own children."
              I don't even think the arguments work against most Republicans, to be honest. Unless we're talking about Corn Hitler Steve King and that group.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by daCat View Post

                I'm glad you give us a peek inside the Seattle bubble.
                Trump is immensely unpopular across a large swath of Republicans in the West and Southwest. Texas, Utah, Nevada, Arizona, Oregon, Washington all voted against Trump at much higher margins than they do against generic Republicans. Shit, even Paul Ryan is speaking out against him now.

                In contrast, Republicans in uneducated states like Louisiana and Alabama voted for him at higher than average margins.

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                • #9
                  The one that cracked me up was Rhode Island. Anyway, you can see that Trump is relative to your average Republican, immensely unpopular in almost all western states. Even ones that lean highly R.

                  Oregon is a +9 D state(more towards the moderate end of solid blue states), almost always had a split D/R senate for as long as I remember, voted for Reagan twice. Trump is a -22, LOL.

                  https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...-he-should-be/
                  Last edited by General_Grantlocks; 07-11-2019, 05:48 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by General_Grantlocks View Post

                    I don't even think the arguments work against most Republicans, to be honest. Unless we're talking about Corn Hitler Steve King and that group.
                    They were still doing it to Paul Ryan and everyone else. Now they are coming for Biden and Pelosi with it. Out of the way old white people. Listen to me even though the only thing I've ever done is been elected to Congress once. Pelosi tried to put AOC on the Climate Change Committee she refused the invitation.

                    Jeffrey Carlson@Carlsonjok
                    I was officially over AOC when she complained about her committee work being a tactic of “trying to keep her busy.” What did she think being a legislator involved? Shitposting from Capitol Hill all day?
                    Meanwhile Tlaib is saying they should be made Chair of Committees if they really valued their opinions.

                    They realize the goal is to defeat Trump, win back the Senate, and keep the House right?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by General_Grantlocks View Post
                      The one that cracked me up was Rhode Island. Anyway, you can see that Trump is relative to your average Republican, immensely unpopular in almost all western states. Even ones that lean highly R.

                      Oregon is a +9 D state(more towards the moderate end of solid blue states), almost always had a split D/R senate for as long as I remember, voted for Reagan twice. Trump is a -22, LOL.

                      https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...-he-should-be/
                      I think the issue will be in who the Democrats put up against him. It seems the sensible candidates have no appeal to their own base. I don't know anyone around here that particularly like Trump, but most will vote for him if the Dem candidate is too far left or just plain unlikable. I get that the coastal areas (most especially the west) would vote for a rabid squirrel to get him out, but that moderate thing bleeds over into the Democrat side as well.

                      I'm kinda hoping this Epstein thing get's Trump dirty enough he gets primaried. But I'm skeptical a Republican primary would produce much better. Just looking around, Dan Crenshaw is about the only Republican with enough appeal to make gains in popularity and I doubt he would run. Should appeal to a younger crowd, and is quick on his feet. I don't think most of the rest have enough charisma to work it. And I doubt an establishment Republican can carry a national election.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by General_Grantlocks View Post

                        Trump is immensely unpopular across a large swath of Republicans in the West and Southwest. Texas, Utah, Nevada, Arizona, Oregon, Washington all voted against Trump at much higher margins than they do against generic Republicans. Shit, even Paul Ryan is speaking out against him now.

                        In contrast, Republicans in uneducated states like Louisiana and Alabama voted for him at higher than average margins.
                        This is true for a variety of reasons.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by TTURedRaider View Post

                          This is true for a variety of reasons.
                          I know a lot of people who have moved down there from California/Oregon/Washington because of housing prices being so bad up here. I really enjoyed San Antonio and Austin(Dallas, not so much, but it wasn't BAD).

                          My main guess at this as an outsider is that demographics in Texas are changing, combined with that Trump's main message doesn't appeal to a lot of traditional Texas values like Reagan/Bush did. Also, Ted Cruz doesn't help Republicans there much.

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                          • #14
                            Trump will never be primaried. I know a lot of people are hoping for a moderate Dem, but Biden and Mayor Pete are probably as moderate as you're going to get in the current climate and I'd put a higher wager on Warren or Harris winning in the end.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by daCat View Post

                              I think the issue will be in who the Democrats put up against him. It seems the sensible candidates have no appeal to their own base. I don't know anyone around here that particularly like Trump, but most will vote for him if the Dem candidate is too far left or just plain unlikable. I get that the coastal areas (most especially the west) would vote for a rabid squirrel to get him out, but that moderate thing bleeds over into the Democrat side as well.

                              I'm kinda hoping this Epstein thing get's Trump dirty enough he gets primaried. But I'm skeptical a Republican primary would produce much better. Just looking around, Dan Crenshaw is about the only Republican with enough appeal to make gains in popularity and I doubt he would run. Should appeal to a younger crowd, and is quick on his feet. I don't think most of the rest have enough charisma to work it. And I doubt an establishment Republican can carry a national election.
                              The goal should be defeating Trump. That doesn't appear to be the goal of the Democratic primary or Democrats in Congress at the moment. But you can't tell them anything right now.

                              I've come to the conclusion Trump must be defeated. I would prefer it to be by Joe Biden or Kamala Harris. Rather than say Warren or Sanders. But if we can survive 4 years of Trump we can do it with those people.

                              I think Bill Weld is trying to primary Trump. Which is good because normally primaries weaken incumbents for the general.

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