The Bad Apple Thread

[md21]

I almost died laughing, so I’m going to need to check but did DSMoneyPrick really try to claim someone else’s mind was made up when it came to police killings?

[tOSUfanboi2]

As you say, you've watched the video several times. What did he grab from his waste band/pocket and hild in front of him right before he opened the door then? I can't tell, but maybe your expert eyes can tell. As someone else who watched the video said (not someone from this site), he was walking with intent to get to the deivers side of his vehicle and it wasn't to drive away. He was clearly intending to grab something from inside the vehicle. Unless he's one of those weird people that tries to get in a car head first.

To answer your other question about not tackling. Perhaps the officer isn't confident in their martial skills, something I've said was a problem. Or perhaps this guy is known to be armed. As was hinted at by spartan, this is known to the police from incidents prior to this. That may have also played a part in this. We simply don't know all of the facts, yet morons like you are ready to play judge, jury, snd executioner based on a 30 second video in which key facts are hidden from view. That's the reason I call you a moron. You don't honestly want to get the answers to your questions because your mind is already made up.

This. Excusing stupid, reckless, and potentially dangerous behavior is why so many people end up getting their asses beat and/or shot.

[daCat]

You should tell that to the judges that have found officers guilty of excessive force in some shootings.

How does that dispute what I said? If you feel the arrest is bogus, or if the police used illegal tactics, that's yours to argue with your day in court.

[md21]

How does that dispute what I said? If you feel the arrest is bogus, or if the police used illegal tactics, that's yours to argue with your day in court.

You spend a lot of time here arguing that the system or better yet the swamp is corrupt. The least you can do is recognize what an uphill battle that is.

[daCat]

You spend a lot of time here arguing that the system or better yet the swamp is corrupt. The least you can do is recognize what an uphill battle that is.

I don't think the hill gets easier by adding charges and potential injuries/death.

[tOSUfanboi2]

You spend a lot of time here arguing that the system or better yet the swamp is corrupt. The least you can do is recognize what an uphill battle that is.

It is, but you know what doesn’t help it? Hitching your cause’s wagon to drug addicts who attack pregnant women and degenerate sex offenders with 15 kids from 17 different mothers. Nobody in their right mind is going to have sympathy or concer. for people like that, because we all know that society is probably better off without them. There’s no shortage of victims who are actually innocent in this world, so focus on them and build your cause around that.

And for the record, I don’t think it’s in any way coincidental that most of BLM’s martyrs are shit bags while more innocent victims get ignored. They know exactly what they’re doing.

[BChris]

How does that dispute what I said? If you feel the arrest is bogus, or if the police used illegal tactics, that's yours to argue with your day in court.

Exactly. It's never as cut and dry as you implied.

[daCat]

Exactly. It's never as cut and dry as you implied.

How is it not? You either resist arrest or you don't. You either fight with the cops or you don't.

[BChris]

How is it not? You either resist arrest or you don't. You either fight with the cops or you don't.

Was he resisting, or fighting? I'll wait.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-s...-idUSKCN1AV28J

How about this guy?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/crime-c...-jean-n1061146

[daCat]

Was he resisting, or fighting? I'll wait.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-s...-idUSKCN1AV28J

How about this guy?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/crime-c...-jean-n1061146

Yeah. We live in an imperfect world in which assholes and careless people are sometimes given more power than they should have. In both instances though, the cops were punished. Rightly so, however a solid argument could be made that neither got enough punishment. By no means am I indicating there are no bad cops either. I'm all for better vetting of candidates for law enforcement positions and better training.

Again, how does this dispute the fact your odds of not being shot are increased if you don't resist arrest or fight with the cops? You're going to need more than anecdotal evidence, especially if it doesn't dispute the point.

[tOSUfanboi2]

Was he resisting, or fighting? I'll wait.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-s...-idUSKCN1AV28J

How about this guy?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/crime-c...-jean-n1061146

See, and this is what bugs me. Everybody wants to act like all of these instances are the same in some way and they’re not. I’ve spoken out against several police shootings on here in numerous threads and said that the cop should be put in prison, but that’s not the case every time just because a black dude got shot. Most of the time, they did stupid shit that escalated the situation, made it 1000 times more volatile, and forced the cop to react in the heat of the moment. Guess what? That’s how people die, and not just at the hands of cops, in general. Any time an armed person feels like they have to choose between shooting someone and getting shot, there’s a good chance they’ll shoot first. Just ask most of the dudes in prison for murder how they got there. Pro tip: it isn’t because they’re serial killers or psychopaths.

[BChris]

See, and this is what bugs me. Everybody wants to act like all of these instances are the same in some way and they’re not. I’ve spoken out against several police shootings on here in numerous threads and said that the cop should be put in prison, but that’s not the case every time just because a black dude got shot. Most of the time, they did stupid shit that escalated the situation, made it 1000 times more volatile, and forced the cop to react in the heat of the moment. Guess what? That’s how people die, and not just at the hands of cops, in general. Any time an armed person feels like they have to choose between shooting someone and getting shot, there’s a good chance they’ll shoot first. Just ask most of the dudes in prison for murder how they got there. Pro tip: it isn’t because they’re serial killers or psychopaths.

Which was EXACTLY my point.

[BChris]

Yeah. We live in an imperfect world in which assholes and careless people are sometimes given more power than they should have. In both instances though, the cops were punished. Rightly so, however a solid argument could be made that neither got enough punishment. By no means am I indicating there are no bad cops either. I'm all for better vetting of candidates for law enforcement positions and better training.

Again, how does this dispute the fact your odds of not being shot are increased if you don't resist arrest or fight with the cops? You're going to need more than anecdotal evidence, especially if it doesn't dispute the point.

Both shot by cops, neither was resisting or fighting back. Your criteria, not mine. Two clear examples, nothing anecdotal about either.

[tOSUfanboi2]

Which was EXACTLY my point.

I know? 🤷♂️

[BChris]

I know? 🤷♂️

lol, I guess my emphasis threw you a bit. Either way, cat can make all the excuses he wants for being wrong. He obviously doesn't know the meaning of the word anecdotal.