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  • Originally posted by DPR View Post

    Don Jr admitted in 2018 that he took the meeting with the Russian lawyer specifically to obtain dirt on Hillary Clinton. That meeting included Jared Kushner and Paul Manafort, who was Trump's campaign chair at the time.

    How is this even a debate anymore? His campaign staff met with Russian staff to exchange dirt in secret to undermine a 3rd party. Which is the very definition of "collusion".

    According to the dictionary definition - secret or illegal cooperation or conspiracy, especially in order to cheat or deceive others.
    2 words: Steele Dossier

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    • Originally posted by daCat View Post

      2 words: Steele Dossier
      Okay? So did you quickly pivot from "no collusion" to "everyone does it"?

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      • Originally posted by DPR View Post

        Okay? So did you quickly pivot from "no collusion" to "everyone does it"?
        Did you just go from being punked by the russia collusion hoax to embracing it?

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        • Originally posted by daCat View Post

          Did you just go from being punked by the russia collusion hoax to embracing it?
          How could I be punked by something that doesn't exist? The Trump campaign colluded with Russian actors. That's something they've admitted. Then there is whatever Roger Stone was willing to lie to investigators and the courts about, only for Trump to pardon him. You have to be incredibly stupid to think that the Trump campaign didn't collude with Russia at some level.

          While incredibly unethical, collusion with Russia wouldn't be as big of a deal if it wasn't obvious Trump was trading favors to Putin all of the damn time. Like right now, pretending not to know about Russia putting bounties on American soldiers. Now it's a pretty big deal to know just how much Trump is relying on Russia in November.

          As for the Steele Dossier, it is to my knowledge that Steele wasn't working on behalf of the British government, which is a pretty big difference.

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          • Originally posted by daCat View Post

            The same could be said about his supporters.
            Definitely can't be said about you.

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