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  • #46
    Originally posted by DPR View Post

    16 is thrown out since they get driver's licenses at that age and usually the age when they get their first job flipping burgers or whatever. I'm open to earlier ages voting if there is a compelling argument for it.
    Why not 7? Free Spider-Man movie tickets!

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    • #47
      Originally posted by DPR View Post

      http://www.people-press.org/2018/08/...idated-voters/

      Not sure why you're taking this line. 44% of Americans over 65 voted for Clinton. The college grad divide was stark at 57 to 36.

      If you're suggesting that ideas like taking an active role in climate change, seeking reform to prevent/mitigate school shootings, investing in science and advanced tech over aging tech like coal and the combustible engine, reform to provide medical care to every American, affordable avenues for advanced education etc are "appealing to people who have zero life experience" then you're the most out of touch person I think I've ever come across who pretends to be in touch.

      All of those issues are popular among a wide range of the electorate. Old and young. Middle Class and poor. White and Black. Christian and Jew. etc
      Because that's exactly what you're saying, that you want people hopped up on hormones with no life experience to be able to vote.

      Blah blah blah, a bunch of bullshit. 16 year olds aren't worrying about any of that shit, they're trying to get laid and figure out what they want to do with their lives.

      Yeah, adults. You know, people who actually know enough about the world to form an opinion.

      Just out of curiosity, when's the last time you actually talked to a teenager? Because you seem to drastically overestimate their competency and have no grasp on what their priorities are.

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      • #48
        If you are old enough to vote, you should be old enough to drink and smoke.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by DPR View Post

          Do 16 year olds work? Do they pay taxes? Are they subject to the draft the minute they turn 18 and gain the right to vote in future elections?

          A person who is turning 18 in 2020 can be drafted into a war with NK or whoever. They would have had no chance to vote for a Senator or a Congressperson or a President who would be making those decisions for them.

          A person who is turning 18 in 2020 will be going off to college or joining the workforce in a career. They would have had no chance to vote for a Senator or a Congressperson or a President who is making regulatory and tax decisions for them.

          It's literal taxation without representation. You know, the thing we fought a war over a quarter millennia ago.
          I worked at 14 and paid taxes. Should a 14 year old be able to vote?

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          • #50
            Originally posted by theBHMAguy View Post

            I worked at 14 and paid taxes. Should a 14 year old be able to vote?
            Studies show they'll mostly vote for free shit Democrats so, yes.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by tOSUfanboi2 View Post

              Tough shit.

              Seriously, this idea that all of society should bend over backwards to accommodate every exception known to man is why things are so fucked up.

              Anyway, here's what I think should be required.

              1.) Tax positive.
              2.) 18 or older.

              That right there would radically alter our political climate and restore something resembling sanity to our societal discourse. If you don't pay, you shouldn't be able to play.
              What about the Über Wealthy who don’t pay taxes?

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Deschet View Post

                What about the Über Wealthy who don’t pay taxes?
                Who?

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by DPR View Post

                  Just calling balls and strikes. If GOP policy ideas were actually good, you'd think they'd run on them and encourage as many people to come out and vote on them as possible.

                  Instead, they try to suppress voting and accuse Democrats of (literally) hating Jews.
                  How do they try to suppress voting? If you're going to toss out the whole "voter ID laws" then you might as well give up. That simply isn't factual. It's an excuse.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by theBHMAguy View Post

                    How do they try to suppress voting? If you're going to toss out the whole "voter ID laws" then you might as well give up. That simply isn't factual. It's an excuse.
                    Oh shit, you did it now. Prepare to hear about the entire electoral history of the state of North Carolina.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by DPR View Post

                      16 is thrown out since they get driver's licenses at that age and usually the age when they get their first job flipping burgers or whatever. I'm open to earlier ages voting if there is a compelling argument for it.
                      Again, if you aren't old enough to buy alcohol, you shouldn't be voting.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by tOSUfanboi2 View Post

                        Oh shit, you did it now. Prepare to hear about the entire electoral history of the state of North Carolina.
                        Did shit happen 100 years ago? Maybe even 50 years ago? Probably. You don't think both sides have pulled that crap?
                        But in 2019? No. You may have small pockets where people get nasty and try to discourage people from voting or even make it difficult, but how do you stop that?

                        In bulk or on a national scale? It's simply not true.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by theBHMAguy View Post

                          Again, if you aren't old enough to buy alcohol, you shouldn't be voting.
                          So, lower the drinking age again?

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by theBHMAguy View Post

                            Again, if you aren't old enough to buy alcohol, you shouldn't be voting.
                            If you're old enough to hold a gun and defend the nation you should be old enough to vote. - 18 is just fine.

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                            • #59
                              What is Pelosi's compelling reason?

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Deschet View Post

                                So, lower the drinking age again?
                                You know why it's 21?

                                I mentioned it early in this thread.

                                It's science.

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