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  • Originally posted by Spartan View Post

    Socialism is a modern economic system, bro. As practiced, it concentrates wealth and power just as much as American style capitalism or any other national socialist type economic system. As I've said to TTU, I don't know how to fix it. But what we're doing isn't working.
    Yeah, one that’s not practiced basically anywhere in its purest form because it sucks ass. Mixed economies are king because they provide the benefits of the free market with the social protections and benefits of a socialist state. What you should want is reform and accountability, not a revolution.

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    • LMFAO at the chaos around the relief loans right now.

      This shit is going to be a clusterfuck......again.

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      • Originally posted by ibleed View Post
        LMFAO at the chaos around the relief loans right now.

        This shit is going to be a clusterfuck......again.
        Designed by Repubs - why am I not surprised?

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        • Originally posted by ibleed View Post
          LMFAO at the chaos around the relief loans right now.

          This shit is going to be a clusterfuck......again.
          Because neoliberals are good at giving money to the wealthy and terrible at giving it to the poor.

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          • Originally posted by Spartan View Post

            Because neoliberals are good at giving money to the wealthy and terrible at giving it to the poor.
            The clusterfuck is in the SBA. Poor people aren't applying for these loans.

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            • Originally posted by Spartan View Post

              Because neoliberals are good at giving money to the wealthy and terrible at giving it to the poor.
              Do shut your stupid mouth. Democrats put in all the bills to give money and aid to the workers and extend unemployment benefits. Had dems been in the minority in the house the repubs would have pushed their Corporate Welfare package through without any oversight.

              Thank Pelosi for putting in language that prevents Trump and his family from receiving ANY funds.

              Please tell your stupid leader Bernie to give up. Tell him to go back to his mega million mansions in Vermont and sip on fine wine while Biden and the dems rescues the country's economy yet again

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              • Originally posted by Spartan View Post

                Socialism is a modern economic system, bro. As practiced, it concentrates wealth and power just as much as American style capitalism or any other national socialist type economic system. As I've said to TTU, I don't know how to fix it. But what we're doing isn't working.
                Who doesn't know what we are doing isn't working but you are not offering anything that as practiced doesn't concentrate wealth and power just as much as our current system.

                Which leaves us with the reform option but some people want a glorious revolution.

                Originally posted by ibleed View Post

                The clusterfuck is in the SBA. Poor people aren't applying for these loans.
                My father said as much while calling me a socialist for not wanting to vote for Trump in 2020. He said he could have designed SBA much better and would have means testing for companies. Now as a company you can apply for it and not need it then keep the money.
                Last edited by TTURedRaider; 04-02-2020, 08:43 PM.

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                • Originally posted by TTURedRaider View Post


                  My father said as much while calling me a socialist for not wanting to vote for Trump in 2020. He said he could have designed SBA much better and would have means testing for companies. Now as a company you can apply for it and not need it then keep the money.
                  I saw this all over the place after Katrina. Now it's going to happen on a national scale.

                  I'm going through CARES and FFCRA as my clients are bombarding my inbox with questions, and both bills suck ass. It's a slush fund..... of confusion. The loans are supposed to go out tomorrow and the banks are fucking confused because SBA won't issue the final guidance.

                  It's going to be a boondoggle. A colossal boondoggle. Some more asphalt of good intentions paving the highway to hell.

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                  • https://www.politico.com/states/flor...-trump-1271172

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                    • Originally posted by ivegostdacityblues View Post
                      I was going to say they didn't have the max payment right, then I checked. Wow, that's bullshit. When I was on unemployment after being discharged back in 2003, they paid 400 a week. I figured it would have gone up...

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                      • Originally posted by DSMoneypit View Post

                        I was going to say they didn't have the max payment right, then I checked. Wow, that's bullshit. When I was on unemployment after being discharged back in 2003, they paid 400 a week. I figured it would have gone up...
                        “Everyone we talk to in that office when we ask them what happened tells us, ‘the system was designed to fail,’” the adviser said. “That’s not a problem when unemployment is 2.8 percent, but it’s a problem now. And no system we have can handle 25,000 people a day.”
                        Rick Scott is a colossal piece of shit. Before becoming Governor, he ran a healthcare company that bilked taxpayers via Medicare fraud. As Governor, he screwed people over some more. Now he's probably doing that as a Senator.

                        Yet he'll probably cruise to reelection in 2024 because God, Guns and Racism.

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                        • Originally posted by TTURedRaider View Post

                          Who doesn't know what we are doing isn't working but you are not offering anything that as practiced doesn't concentrate wealth and power just as much as our current system.

                          Which leaves us with the reform option but some people want a glorious revolution.
                          I've offered systems that would reduce the concentration, but I don't know of any that would eliminate it without recreating it somewhere else. But if you can look at stagnant wages, predatory capitalism, growing authoritarianism, or the medical system in general and believe that things are working, I don't know that we'll ever see eye to eye.

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                          • Originally posted by ivegostdacityblues View Post
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                            • Originally posted by Spartan View Post
                              I love that DeSantis is pissed at Scott for giving him a hot plate of shit.

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                              • A small bank in West Virginia has become the first institution to fail during the coronavirus crisis, the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. announced Friday. The First State Bank of Barboursville with $152 million in total assets was closed Friday by the West Virginia Division of Financial Institutions. The bank's $139.5 million in deposits will be acquired by MVB Bank Inc. of Fairmont, W.Va. The four branches of The First State Bank will reopen as branches of MVB Bank on Saturday, the FDIC said.
                                https://www.marketwatch.com/story/fd...sis-2020-04-03

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