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  • Which Dem will go third party after Bernie wins the nomination?

    Got to say, all signs point to Bloomberg running a Ross Perot style third party. It might even work! If you hate trump, but can’t bring yourself to vote for a socialist.....Bloomberg.

  • #2
    Originally posted by DynastyFSU2 View Post
    Got to say, all signs point to Bloomberg running a Ross Perot style third party. It might even work! If you hate trump, but can’t bring yourself to vote for a socialist.....Bloomberg.
    One would imagine that you'd hate that idea. Bloomberg has more in common with Trump than anyone else but it's less likely to say outlandish shit. Just the kind of candidate to peel those soft votes away from him.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Spartan View Post

      One would imagine that you'd hate that idea. Bloomberg has more in common with Trump than anyone else but it's less likely to say outlandish shit. Just the kind of candidate to peel those soft votes away from him.
      I think a lot of moderate dems and people who think the economy is doing well will be looking for a protest vote. But won't vote Trump or Bernie.

      Not sure I can vote for the guy withholding his medical records.

      In an October interview with Gupta after his heart attack, Sanders indicated again that he would release his medical records, saying: "The people do have a right to know about the health of a senator, somebody who's running for president of the United States -- full disclosure."

      Now he has no plans to do that. So he lied.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by TTURedRaider View Post

        I think a lot of moderate dems and people who think the economy is doing well will be looking for a protest vote. But won't vote Trump or Bernie.

        Not sure I can vote for the guy withholding his medical records.

        In an October interview with Gupta after his heart attack, Sanders indicated again that he would release his medical records, saying: "The people do have a right to know about the health of a senator, somebody who's running for president of the United States -- full disclosure."

        Now he has no plans to do that. So he lied.
        If you want to move the goalposts, sure. He lied.

        https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...mber-2019.html

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Spartan View Post

          If you want to move the goalposts, sure. He lied.

          https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...mber-2019.html
          In an October interview with Gupta after his heart attack, Sanders indicated again that he would release his medical records, saying: "The people do have a right to know about the health of a senator, somebody who's running for president of the United States -- full disclosure."

          In December, Sanders' campaign released three letters from physicians attesting to his heart health, in an attempt to address concerns about his fitness to serve.

          Sen. Bernie Sanders said his campaign likely will not release his full medical records despite previously committing to do so.


          But I'm moving the goal posts? He the one that said he would do it and then backtracked. Since when do three letters from physicians constitute your full medical records? Trump released letters from physicians nobody believed that was his full medical records.

          Salon - Bernie Sanders’ medical records are “very reassuring,” but a key piece of information is missing

          But despite his overall positive reaction to the letters, Dr. Wilson told me that there was a key piece of information missing.

          The letters do not mention Sanders' ejection fraction, which is the "amount of blood that's ejected from the heart with each beat," he explained.

          "That has usually been linked as a prognosticator as to how someone will do long term," Dr. Wilson explained. "That seems to be the one piece of information that was not included, and I suppose that would be why he did not release his medical records."

          The worry, of course, is that by concealing some information and releasing others, the Sanders team might be presenting a cherry-picked picture of his health. Presidents, after all, have a history of concealing health issues from the public. And for Sanders, the omission particularly troubling, given that he previously said he would release "comprehensive" information about his health.
          I guess Salon is moving the goal posts as well?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by TTURedRaider View Post

            In an October interview with Gupta after his heart attack, Sanders indicated again that he would release his medical records, saying: "The people do have a right to know about the health of a senator, somebody who's running for president of the United States -- full disclosure."

            In December, Sanders' campaign released three letters from physicians attesting to his heart health, in an attempt to address concerns about his fitness to serve.

            Sen. Bernie Sanders said his campaign likely will not release his full medical records despite previously committing to do so.


            But I'm moving the goal posts? He the one that said he would do it and then backtracked. Since when do three letters from physicians constitute your full medical records? Trump released letters from physicians nobody believed that was his full medical records.

            Salon - Bernie Sanders’ medical records are “very reassuring,” but a key piece of information is missing



            I guess Salon is moving the goal posts as well?
            No, just you and people like you looking to muddy the waters. He released statements from his physicians regarding his health. If he released information regarding his ejection fraction, there would be complaints that he wasn't releasing his long form birth cert- err... medical records.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Spartan View Post

              No, just you and people like you looking to muddy the waters. He released statements from his physicians regarding his health. If he released information regarding his ejection fraction, there would be complaints that he wasn't releasing his long form birth cert- err... medical records.
              I see you are defending Bernie walking back releasing his full medical records with Bernie's people line comparing criticisms to birtherism.

              “It’s the right thing to do,” Sanders said in November, when he promised a fuller accounting. “The American people have a right to know whether the person they’re going to be voting for, for president, is healthy.

              Apparently we don't have a right to know. Just like how his campaign said he had "chest discomfort " for days before disclosing to the voting public he actually had a heart attack.

              The fact is Bernie Sanders would be the oldest person elected President ever at 78. Amazing how the oldest field ever in Presidential politics is also somehow the healthiest despite a heart attack, multiple stents, etc. I remember everyone saying McCain was to old when he was 71 and running. McCain released thousands of pages of medical records not just 3 notes from Doctors.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Spartan View Post

                he wasn't releasing his long form birth cert- err... medical records.
                Oh fuck off. The Birther smear against Obama was pure racist bullshit. The medical questions to Sanders are completely legitimate as Bernie's health is a serious concern.

                Again, my biggest fear isn't Bernie winning the nomination or the presidency. It is him winning the nomination and then having another heart attack in October right before voting starts.

                Once you have one heart attack, the risk for having another heart attack rises; this risk is especially high for 3 to 5 years after the first heart attack.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by TTURedRaider View Post

                  The fact is Bernie Sanders would be the oldest person elected President ever at 78. Amazing how the oldest field ever in Presidential politics is also somehow the healthiest despite a heart attack, multiple stents, etc. I remember everyone saying McCain was to old when he was 71 and running. McCain released thousands of pages of medical records not just 3 notes from Doctors.
                  He's just taking the same stance as Trump, which is to say fuck you to the media and voters on matters of personal transparency.

                  In a way I agree it is smart politics, especially if his medical records say he's in much worse shape than he is. But it is only smart politics as long as he stays healthy. If he has another heart attack, regardless of survival, its going to throw the campaign into complete chaos.

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                  • #10
                    If Bernie wins the democratic primary - Buttigieg and Bloomberg should form the 3rd party

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by DPR View Post

                      He's just taking the same stance as Trump, which is to say fuck you to the media and voters on matters of personal transparency.

                      In a way I agree it is smart politics, especially if his medical records say he's in much worse shape than he is. But it is only smart politics as long as he stays healthy. If he has another heart attack, regardless of survival, its going to throw the campaign into complete chaos.
                      Its very Trumpian. Which is somehow okay because he's a progressive.

                      Now his surrogates are attacking those questioning his back tracking on medical transparency as engaging in some form of birtherism. His campaign spokesperson then lied about Bloomberg having a heart attack.

                      I'm old enough to remember when Bernie used to attack billionaires and millionaires. Now that he's a millionaire with three houses he only goes after billionaires.

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