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  • What position in recruiting correlates to the most wins?

    Curious as to if anyone has crunched the #'s on this one.

    I would presume defensive line...FSU, Bama, Ohio State, Clemons all seemed to kill it there..

  • #2
    I think it's a draw between DL and OL

    But then again, if I'm right, Stanford will be really good soon since they landed two elite OTs

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    • #3
      The players who do the most bending over make all the difference.

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      • #4
        Trenches for sure.

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        • #5
          Yeah, has to be up front. If you look at Alabama any given year, most of their skill players aren't that impressive. They're not making up most of the highlight reel by seasons end, they just take the opportunities they're given and execute at a high level. You don't have to be that fast if you're running through a massive hole.

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          • #6
            I do wonder if anyone's actually written this up or tracked it for public viewing.

            I think linebacker and safety are incredibly important positions too. I think * rating for OL is very overrated(possibly the most, in fact, so I'd disagree with you all there.

            Thinking about it a bit more, I would say:

            1. D-Line
            2. Linebackers
            3. Quarterback

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            • #7
              1. Doggy
              2. Reverse cowgirl
              3. Cowgirl
              4. Jackhammer

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              • #8
                Originally posted by tOSUfanboi2 View Post
                Yeah, has to be up front. If you look at Alabama any given year, most of their skill players aren't that impressive. They're not making up most of the highlight reel by seasons end, they just take the opportunities they're given and execute at a high level. You don't have to be that fast if you're running through a massive hole.
                Alabama doesn't have impressive skill players? Seems like they putt a massive amount of skill players in the NFL.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Hamp View Post

                  Alabama doesn't have impressive skill players? Seems like they putt a massive amount of skill players in the NFL.
                  Yeah, and what percentage are stars? For every Julio, there's three corners who make a living getting burned, and for every solid back, there's there's a slew of bad QBs. Alabama wins games due to controlling the line of scrimmage.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by tOSUfanboi2 View Post

                    Yeah, and what percentage are stars? For every Julio, there's three corners who make a living getting burned, and for every solid back, there's there's a slew of bad QBs. Alabama wins games due to controlling the line of scrimmage.
                    Pretty sure they win games by putting more points on the board than their opponents, but I'm just guessing.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by daCat View Post

                      Pretty sure they win games by putting more points on the board than their opponents, but I'm just guessing.
                      Durrrr

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                      • #12
                        1.) DL (We rarely if ever had one and failed to win anything more than a bowl game.)

                        2.) OL (If you have a good OL it lets you run your offense how you want and impose your will on the opponent.)

                        3.) LB (If you can stop the run and make a teams have to pass you'll likely win. Most teams are not setup to win passing alone and will make mistakes.)

                        4.) DB (Helped by DL getting pressure however they can also limit big plays and get turnovers. If you turn the other team over more you tend to win.)

                        5.) QB (If you have a talented guy making good decisions it helps you win. But all he needs to do is gain 10 yards every 3 downs with your team and score when you get in the RZ. But ALABAMA, FSU, OHIO ST, CLEMSON, etc win NCs with quarterbacks who I can't remember and don't seem to go on to have success in the NFL.)

                        6.) RB (Running the ball is good for milking the clock and TOP. It allows your defense to rest which is important. It also has a psychological impact on your opponent. But means nothing if you don't actually score. Then it's just shortening the game on yourself.)

                        7.) WR/TE (They are helpful in gaining lots of yardage but are totally dependent on the QB getting them the ball.)

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by TTURedRaider View Post
                          1.) DL (We rarely if ever had one and failed to win anything more than a bowl game.)

                          2.) OL (If you have a good OL it lets you run your offense how you want and impose your will on the opponent.)

                          3.) LB (If you can stop the run and make a teams have to pass you'll likely win. Most teams are not setup to win passing alone and will make mistakes.)

                          4.) DB (Helped by DL getting pressure however they can also limit big plays and get turnovers. If you turn the other team over more you tend to win.)

                          5.) QB (If you have a talented guy making good decisions it helps you win. But all he needs to do is gain 10 yards every 3 downs with your team and score when you get in the RZ. But ALABAMA, FSU, OHIO ST, CLEMSON, etc win NCs with quarterbacks who I can't remember and don't seem to go on to have success in the NFL.)

                          6.) RB (Running the ball is good for milking the clock and TOP. It allows your defense to rest which is important. It also has a psychological impact on your opponent. But means nothing if you don't actually score. Then it's just shortening the game on yourself.)

                          7.) WR/TE (They are helpful in gaining lots of yardage but are totally dependent on the QB getting them the ball.)
                          With OL recruiting I feel is very important, top 3 for sure, but I think *'s matter a lot less on the OL. Feels like so many more 2-3* OL develop into NFL guys.

                          I think you're just spoiled at QB at TTU.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by General_Grantlocks View Post

                            With OL recruiting I feel is very important, top 3 for sure, but I think *'s matter a lot less on the OL. Feels like so many more 2-3* OL develop into NFL guys.

                            I think you're just spoiled at QB at TTU.
                            Stars are stupid way to judge players. Rivals gets plenty wrong.

                            Mike Farrell @rivalsmike #Chiefs just made the dumbest move of the draft. Mahomes has a cannon, but he freelances way too much. #NFLDraft2017

                            Meanwhile actual NFL coaches saw it differently.

                            QBs are great. Mahomes was a magician. But if you can't stop the other team it doesn't matter.

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                            • #15
                              Yeah it's defensive line. Of the premium positions it's the easiest one to evaluate at the HS level, probably by a considerable margin.

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