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  • ODT: The Heisman Race

    Truth about this years Heisman race...if Justin Fields played more than 2 quarters of football every game (or if Young didn't get suspended) not a soul would think Joe Burrow would finish Top 2, let alone win the award.

    Burrow is likely going to win the award because the LSU defense is garbage and forces him to play way more than Fields. Fields has accounted for 41 TDS with only 1 interception. These players are not equal.

  • #2
    True.

    Similarly, if Iowa's offense actually scored points and AJ Epenesa didn't have to play contain football in Iowa's scheme, he'd probably have more sacks than Chase Young this year. Such is life.

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    • #3
      It’s got to be Young, no matter what. Name another player in the Country who makes that much of a difference on the field.

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      • #4
        This argument sounds familiar.

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        • #5
          Burrow: 41 total TDs
          Fields : 41 total TDs

          Plays
          Burrow: 416
          Fields: 314

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          • #6
            Joe Burrow
            268 of 341 (78.6%) for 3,687 yards, 38 TDs, and 6 INTs
            75 carries for 215 yards and 3 TDs
            202.7 rtg

            Justin Fields
            159 of 230 (69.1%) for 2,164 yards, 31 TDS, and 1 INT
            84 carries for 377 yards and 10 TDs
            191.8 rtg

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            • #7
              Burrow has thrown the ball 111 more times, and only thrown for 7 more TDs than Fields...lulz.

              Fields is clearly the winner if he plays the same amount as Joe does due to LSU's shit defense.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by JTrain View Post
                Burrow has thrown the ball 111 more times, and only thrown for 7 more TDs than Fields...lulz.

                Fields is clearly the winner if he plays the same amount as Joe does due to LSU's shit defense.
                This. There's simply no way to argue that Joe Burrow is a more productive player if you average everything out. The only category he'd have any advantage in is like 1.4 in YPA, which is what happens when your running game is 60th in the country and you're forced into more third and longs as a result.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by tOSUfanboi2 View Post
                  This. There's simply no way to argue that Joe Burrow is a more productive player if you average everything out. The only category he'd have any advantage in is like 1.4 in YPA, which is what happens when your running game is 60th in the country and you're forced into more third and longs as a result.
                  One comparison that I think would be interesting would be to actually compare "non-garbage time" stats. I'm curious how much of the play count discrepancy is truly "Fields only plays a half of each game" and not "LSU runs a lot more plays"

                  Ohio State
                  768 total offensive plays (Fields accounts for 314 or 41%)
                  5,417 total yards (Fields accounts for 2,541 or 47%)

                  LSU
                  751 total offensive plays (Burrow accounts for 416 of 55%)
                  5,560 total yards (Burrow accounts for 3,902 or 70%)

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Foster4Prez View Post

                    One comparison that I think would be interesting would be to actually compare "non-garbage time" stats. I'm curious how much of the play count discrepancy is truly "Fields only plays a half of each game" and not "LSU runs a lot more plays"

                    Ohio State
                    768 total offensive plays (Fields accounts for 314 or 41%)
                    5,417 total yards (Fields accounts for 2,541 or 47%)

                    LSU
                    751 total offensive plays (Burrow accounts for 416 of 55%)
                    5,560 total yards (Burrow accounts for 3,902 or 70%)
                    There is no doubt that Burrow does more for LSU, because they need him to. Not saying they don't have talent, just that they don't have the same talent that tOSU does (which again is why the argument for who #1 really is, swings in Ohio States favor in every measurable metric). The debate has always been best player vs. most valuable. If the award is supposed to go to the best player the finish should be Chase, Fields, then Burrow. If its most valuable, then yes, its hard to argue that Burrow isn't that. I will say, if tOSU had to play the next two games without Fields, there is a chance we'd lose both. If LSU had to play any of their tough games without Burrow, they absolutely would have lost them.

                    Best vs. Most Valuable.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Foster4Prez View Post

                      One comparison that I think would be interesting would be to actually compare "non-garbage time" stats. I'm curious how much of the play count discrepancy is truly "Fields only plays a half of each game" and not "LSU runs a lot more plays"

                      Ohio State
                      768 total offensive plays (Fields accounts for 314 or 41%)
                      5,417 total yards (Fields accounts for 2,541 or 47%)

                      LSU
                      751 total offensive plays (Burrow accounts for 416 of 55%)
                      5,560 total yards (Burrow accounts for 3,902 or 70%)
                      Burrow isn’t playing more garbage time, he’s just playing more time period. LSU can’t afford to sit him when their defense keeps the opposition in the game. Plus, as I said previously, LSU’s running game is mediocre so more is expected of him.

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                      • #12
                        If Ohio State played in a Power 5 conference, Fields might have a chance.

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                        • #13
                          Ha. Your Heisman front runner looks shook and just fumbled.

                          Poor kid can’t even play a full 3 quarters.

                          Enjoy, Ohio faggots!!

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                          • #14
                            And your OTHER Heisman candidate can even slow down a Backup QB draw.

                            This is fun.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Rico View Post
                              Ha. Your Heisman front runner looks shook and just fumbled.

                              Poor kid can’t even play a full 3 quarters.

                              Enjoy, Ohio faggots!!
                              This post didn’t age well.

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